07.02.2020 00:10
[#1563]
Re: Nowe Turbo A1200/060 - WARP 1260
@sanjyuubi, post #1562
When can I buy new products? The topic and empty http://www.amigawarp.eu/ is meaningless, if the products will never be available.
3 new 68040-68060 A1200 turbocards possible:
1-- CS-Lab Warp 1240, 1260.
2-- The new icomp products (ACA1240, 1260) appear this year, but i don't want from Jens to shop.
3-- The Vampire 1200 not OK for 450 Euro.
The old Apollo 1260 (66-80 MHz) for 400-500 Euro, the old Blizzard 1260 (66-80 MHz) for 800+ Euro, and Blizzard PPC 060 for 1000+ Euro not OK.
Ostatnia aktualizacja: 07.02.2020 00:12:29 przez Amiga500Plus
3 new 68040-68060 A1200 turbocards possible:
1-- CS-Lab Warp 1240, 1260.
2-- The new icomp products (ACA1240, 1260) appear this year, but i don't want from Jens to shop.
3-- The Vampire 1200 not OK for 450 Euro.
The old Apollo 1260 (66-80 MHz) for 400-500 Euro, the old Blizzard 1260 (66-80 MHz) for 800+ Euro, and Blizzard PPC 060 for 1000+ Euro not OK.
Ostatnia aktualizacja: 07.02.2020 00:12:29 przez Amiga500Plus
07.02.2020 09:44
[#1565]
Re: Nowe Turbo A1200/060 - WARP 1260
@abcdef, post #1564
There is not 1 CS-Lab product yet, which I may pay. Videos were being made last year and 2018 where the operational products are visible already, A500+68030 (CS-530), 68040 (CS-540), 68060 (CS-560), A1200+68040 (Warp 1240), 68060 (Warp 1260). Why does a product which can be bought not exist yet?
If the new CS-Lab products appear later, than the icomp ACA1240 and 1260, there is big trouble. The CS-Lab firm will lose many customers, if the ACA1240+1260 products will be available already, but the CS-Lab products not yet.
If the new CS-Lab products appear later, than the icomp ACA1240 and 1260, there is big trouble. The CS-Lab firm will lose many customers, if the ACA1240+1260 products will be available already, but the CS-Lab products not yet.
07.02.2020 14:34
[#1567]
Re: Nowe Turbo A1200/060 - WARP 1260
@Amiga500Plus, post #1565
Well you could've preordered Cyberpunk 2077 last year, it was going to be released at the end of 2019, it's set to Q3 2020 now. I know you might be annoyed but ppl who preordered Cyberpunk already paid to the CD Projekt RED, did you pay to CS-Lab? CS-Lab Amiga products are just "side job" while their main interest is automation and robotics to industry which is even more time consuming (and sometimes brings up penalties for failing the schedule). I have no reason to believe products advertised won't come into fruition but as with most hobby based side jobs it's just way lower priority than main job (and believe me, they can earn more money with their regular jobs than by designing amiga accelerators). So my point is... CS-540/CS-56- and Warp1240/1260 will be released when ready.
07.02.2020 15:20
[#1568]
Re: Nowe Turbo A1200/060 - WARP 1260
@AmmigaCDTV, post #1566
To akurat trudno powiedzieć o co chodzi. Najpierw pyta o karty, potem coś o zasilaczach, później wraca do kart, później pisze, że vampire nie chce bo za drogi, a od jensa turbiszcza nie kupi nie rozumiejąc, że tu nawet oficjalnego preordera nie było tylko zasadniczo mało zobowiązująca lista z komitetu kolejkowego + zapowiedzi produktu + wstępna specyfikacja + wstępne wyniki działania. Będzie jak będzie, wtedy gdy uruchomione zostaną zamówienia można męczyć kiedy pojawią się karty. W tej chwili to nadal etap developerski i potrwa tak długo, aż się skończy.
07.02.2020 15:26
[#1569]
Re: Nowe Turbo A1200/060 - WARP 1260
@abcdef, post #1568
Jedną kwestią jest to, że ów Amiga500Plus wpada co parę miesięcy na forum i robi to co robi (jego dotychczasowe pytania o dostępność sprzętu zahaczały o lekki trolling), a osobną to, że przydałby się jakiś oficjalny update od CS-Lab, żeby ukrócić domysły i spekulacje.
A że będzie trwało tyle ile trzeba to jasna sprawa i nikt rozsądny nie pogania
A że będzie trwało tyle ile trzeba to jasna sprawa i nikt rozsądny nie pogania
07.02.2020 17:02
[#1570]
Re: Nowe Turbo A1200/060 - WARP 1260
@abcdef, post #1567
Why do they not prepare a plainer version? Why it is necessary to wait for 2-3 years onto the full version products? CS-Lab normal development:
Step 1: A500 + 68030 50 MHz + 128 MB RAM tests OK, CS-530, and A1200 + 68030 50 MHz + 128 MB RAM tests OK, Warp 1230(?).
Step 2: Start preorders, starts the production, starts shipping to buyers.
Step 3. A500 + 68040 40 MHz+ 128 MB RAM tests OK, CS-540, and A1200 + 68040 40 MHz + 128 MB RAM tests OK, Warp 1240.
Step 4: Start preorder, starts the production, starts shipping to buyers.
Step 5. A500 + 68060 50 MHz + 128 MB RAM tests OK, CS-560, and A1200 + 68060 50 MHz + 128 MB RAM tests OK, Warp 1260.
Step 6: Start preorder, starts the production, starts shipping to buyers.
Step 7: The additional functions (68040 50 MHz, 68060 66-100 MHz, CF card, SD card, USB, HDMI, MP3 player, audio card, mapROM, etc.), and other versions (Warp 4060 to A4000) may start development, if the plain versions are ready, if works OK.
This OK at final products: "Family of Warp – All-in-One Amiga Expansion Boards"
I need simple Warp 1260 with 68060 100 MHz (I bought a real, not fake rev. 6 full CPU, 71E41J) and 128-256 MB fast RAM, step 1. If other functions and price OK, then step 2 = I buy full version.
Some plainer products would have been ready last year already. The development of the plus functions = time and time, 3, 6, 12, etc. months.
Coming soon icomp ACA1240+1260 (but i don't want from Jens to shop, price unknown), and TF1260 68060 80 MHz (quality, stability, price unknown). Vampire A1200 available, but this not real CPU, FPGA only, many problems not OK.
4 different groups develop new products, 68060 card to A1200, and I cannot buy a new product!!! I wait CS-Lab products.
Step 1: A500 + 68030 50 MHz + 128 MB RAM tests OK, CS-530, and A1200 + 68030 50 MHz + 128 MB RAM tests OK, Warp 1230(?).
Step 2: Start preorders, starts the production, starts shipping to buyers.
Step 3. A500 + 68040 40 MHz+ 128 MB RAM tests OK, CS-540, and A1200 + 68040 40 MHz + 128 MB RAM tests OK, Warp 1240.
Step 4: Start preorder, starts the production, starts shipping to buyers.
Step 5. A500 + 68060 50 MHz + 128 MB RAM tests OK, CS-560, and A1200 + 68060 50 MHz + 128 MB RAM tests OK, Warp 1260.
Step 6: Start preorder, starts the production, starts shipping to buyers.
Step 7: The additional functions (68040 50 MHz, 68060 66-100 MHz, CF card, SD card, USB, HDMI, MP3 player, audio card, mapROM, etc.), and other versions (Warp 4060 to A4000) may start development, if the plain versions are ready, if works OK.
This OK at final products: "Family of Warp – All-in-One Amiga Expansion Boards"
I need simple Warp 1260 with 68060 100 MHz (I bought a real, not fake rev. 6 full CPU, 71E41J) and 128-256 MB fast RAM, step 1. If other functions and price OK, then step 2 = I buy full version.
Some plainer products would have been ready last year already. The development of the plus functions = time and time, 3, 6, 12, etc. months.
Coming soon icomp ACA1240+1260 (but i don't want from Jens to shop, price unknown), and TF1260 68060 80 MHz (quality, stability, price unknown). Vampire A1200 available, but this not real CPU, FPGA only, many problems not OK.
4 different groups develop new products, 68060 card to A1200, and I cannot buy a new product!!! I wait CS-Lab products.
09.02.2020 13:04
[#1574]
Re: Nowe Turbo A1200/060 - WARP 1260
@Cezarykl, post #1573
Warp 1260 simple, CPU and RAM interface, and ready. No HDMI, audio, CF card, etc.. If 100 MHz 68060 with rev. 6 real, not fake 71E41J CPU + 128 MB RAM = 600+ Euro, then not OK. Apollo 1260 (made in 1997) 68060 80 MHz 450-500 Euro was in 2019 on ebay. Apollo 1240 68040 40 MHz 300-350 Euro was in 2019 on ebay.
I have Apollo 1260 68060 80 MHz + 64 MB RAM, I need better new turbocard. The Blizzard 1260 (800+ Euro) and 1230 (250+ Euro) are too expensive. Sysinfo dhrystones, higher = better:
Blizzard 1230 8500/250 Euro = 34.
Apollo 1240/40 28000/350 Euro = 80.
Apollo 1260 060/50 37000/500 Euro = 74.
Apollo 1260 060/66 49000/500 Euro = 98.
Apollo 1260 060/80 59000/500 Euro = 118.
Ostatnia aktualizacja: 09.02.2020 13:14:17 przez Amiga500Plus
I have Apollo 1260 68060 80 MHz + 64 MB RAM, I need better new turbocard. The Blizzard 1260 (800+ Euro) and 1230 (250+ Euro) are too expensive. Sysinfo dhrystones, higher = better:
Blizzard 1230 8500/250 Euro = 34.
Apollo 1240/40 28000/350 Euro = 80.
Apollo 1260 060/50 37000/500 Euro = 74.
Apollo 1260 060/66 49000/500 Euro = 98.
Apollo 1260 060/80 59000/500 Euro = 118.
Ostatnia aktualizacja: 09.02.2020 13:14:17 przez Amiga500Plus
13.02.2020 04:14
[#1579]
Re: Nowe Turbo A1200/060 - WARP 1260
@tboniasty, post #1575
Warp 1260 with all features??? When will the end-product be buyable? In 2025?
If the Warp 1260, etc. will not be available until the appearance of the ACA1240, 1260, then i don't care the Warp 1260.
TF530 (2 MB RAM), 534 (4 MB RAM) = HAHA. TF1260 = bullshit, not available.
Why I'm no longer developing the TF534/TF530 cards
Ostatnia aktualizacja: 13.02.2020 04:18:26 przez Amiga500Plus
If the Warp 1260, etc. will not be available until the appearance of the ACA1240, 1260, then i don't care the Warp 1260.
TF530 (2 MB RAM), 534 (4 MB RAM) = HAHA. TF1260 = bullshit, not available.
Why I'm no longer developing the TF534/TF530 cards
Ostatnia aktualizacja: 13.02.2020 04:18:26 przez Amiga500Plus
13.02.2020 12:43
[#1582]
Re: Nowe Turbo A1200/060 - WARP 1260
@Jacques, post #1580
I wanted to buy a better product instead of the old Apollo card, but impossible. The CS-Lab developers want to prepare a new product. The customers claim the new product. The completion of the new product is the developer's interest. The customers do not plead for the product, because other developers work on a similar product (ACA1240, 1260, etc.).
I use my current card, Apollo 1260 68060 80 MHz, 64 MB RAM.
I use my current card, Apollo 1260 68060 80 MHz, 64 MB RAM.
