@MDW, post #1
Podpadł mi kiedyś wypowiedzią na temat MorphOSa z której biło straszną hipokryzją.
@Sokok, post #3
@MDW, post #7
@MDW, post #6
Ciekawe, że gdy on robił swój odpowiednik MorphOSa to jakoś bezsensowne nie było.
@wawrzon, post #12
@michal_zukowski, post #14
Według Arosowego gita ostatnio w Arosie dzieje się niewiele.
21:39 Changeset in AROS [54753] von NicJA If setpatch is present, run it.
20:56 Changeset in AROS [54752] von neil Better MUI compatibility for Window class: - Return zero for current …
19:33 Changeset in AROS [54751] von neil Better MUI compatibility: don't use MUIV_Window_TopEdge_Delta, which …
16:10 Changeset in AROS [54750] von NicJA drop the copymem patching since it is handled in exec.
13:29 Changeset in AROS [54749] von twilen ModelStringBuffer? was too small for Apollo, fix FPU strings if EC CPU …
13:25 Changeset in AROS [54748] von twilen ADDR32 changed.
04:04 Changeset in AROS [54747] von NicJA show the ec version of 030
04:01 Changeset in AROS [54746] von NicJA Show the correct cache sizes for the apollo core.
03:10 Changeset in AROS [54745] von NicJA fix the format template so that the cpu model is shown correctly.
03:09 Changeset in AROS [54744] von NicJA remove some whitespace 02:33 Changeset in AROS [54743] von NicJA typo
01:24 Changeset in AROS [54742] von NicJA check if the CPU has the Apollo 68080 addiw.l instruction. If it has, …
01:19 Changeset in AROS [54741] von NicJA tidy formatting
01:17 Changeset in AROS [54740] von NicJA bump the copyright notice.
01:16 Changeset in AROS [54739] von NicJA # always default to 68000 # show the EC version of 020 and EC/LC …
01:14 Changeset in AROS [54738] von NicJA use USER_INCLUDES
00:24 Changeset in AROS [54737] von NicJA Add AttnFlags? for the Apollo'080, and MMU presence. Use the bit …
@wawrzon, post #12
Ciekawe, że gdy on robił swój odpowiednik MorphOSa to jakoś bezsensowne nie było.
mysle ze to polega na ramach czasowych. mysle ze on uwazal ze tamtym momencie to mialo jakis sens, a potem jak przestalo, to zarzucili projekt.
@agrajek, post #18
A ja myślę że doszedł do wniosku iż na tym nie zarobi bo jest już za późno, czyli takie inne - "ramy czasowe".
@wawrzon, post #12
mysle ze to polega na ramach czasowych. mysle ze on uwazal ze tamtym momencie to mialo jakis sens, a potem jak przestalo, to zarzucili projekt.
@MDW, post #20
Ake ja wyczułem w jego wypowiedzi wręcz wrogość.
And Windows isn't the only culprit here... all current OSs have these kinds of issues. Even AmigaOS can get really slow over issues like layer locking (there's a video up on YouTube which shows MorphOS, essentially cloning the AmigaOS, failing against MacOS on opening multiple web browser instances, due to some of this stuff). There is a ton of room for optimization.
Tak jakby mu było żal i zazdrościł, że to co im wtedy zupełnie nie wyszło, komuś innemu się udało, produkt żyje,
@recedent, post #23
o tutaj.
The MorphOS people did not not-do any of those things.
Of course they would. And that's why I'm stressing, THESE ARE MY OPINIONS. Not some gospel delivered from on high
@wawrzon, post #24
The MorphOS project came from Phase V... after Phase V ended, former employees started up BPlan (eg, "Plan B"), who eventually merged with a couple folks from Thendic France to form Genesi.
Now, I do not have direct personal knowledge of all MorphOS sources. But back when Phase 5 was working on their "C Exec" and other things, starting to re-create AmigaOS themselves in the mid-1990s, I was working with Andy Finkel at Amiga Technologies. The Phase 5 guys were really after AT to use tome of their stuff (and pay them, natch). Andy did a code review of the C Kernel, and found it was copied from AmigaOS source code. In fact, even the comments were copied, assembler to C.
Maybe MorphOS is clean, maybe not. Maybe no one actually knows. But that's such a transgression, I wouldn't trust anyone involved in Phase 5, or any code that can be traced back to Phase 5.
(...)
They still don't understand clean room development. If you have seen the Amiga source code, you cannot produce a legally separate work-alike. So any copied comments are absolute proof that the code is dirty. And they're not rejecting my claim, if you go back into those linked documents, that the comments were copied.
Point in fact -- I just don't care about MorphOS. It's not AmigaOS, it might as well be Windows for all I care. If you like it, I'm pretty certain at this point no new legal entanglements are going to happen. If the MorphOS people would like to swear in public that not a line of code or comment is copied from the AmigaOS sources or derived from the Phase 5 code (fruits of a poisonous tree, in legal terms), I will not mention MorphOS again.
@recedent, post #25